It is not America’s fault that Indonesia and Brazil have problems (or that India and China have problems); it is the fault of those countries’ own rubbish political and social systems.

You act as if America somehow simply exists as a desirable magnet, utterly independent of the people who inhabit it and who have made it what it is. Americans are nothing more than inconvenient and somewhat doddering place keepers, in the way of all the dynamic third worlders dying to push them aside and take their place.

Why should Americans have to put themselves in the place of an H1b holder? The simple fact of the matter is that there is no need for H1B visas in the first place, and the hiring of H1B visa holders does hurt indigenous Americans, by driving their wages down. H1Bs don’t benefit Americans; they benefit corporations.

This is why mandy’s comment is rubbish, as well; it is based on a false comparison. American citizens do not benefit from some McDonald’s franchise in New Dehli; only the owner of the franchise benefits. Turbines, TV’s? Don’t make me laugh. American industry sent its factories making goods to other countries, long ago. American citizens don’t make anything, anymore, not even the beds in hotels they can no longer afford to stay in - illegal Mexican immigrants are doing that. If Indians have a complaint at being flooded with cheap imports, they need look no further than China.

You have nothing but complaints and snide judgments for Americans, but you sure love their country. Since you find Americans so odious, why don’t you try using some of your superior brain power and finely tuned moral uprightness to stay in your own countries and fix them, so that the entire world can truly be a better place.

But for myself, I think it is a moral issue that we have so many people who come here looking to become Americans, who are cream of the crop compared to other immigrants (these are the people we *want* here) — and we underpay, abuse, and treat them like indentured servants. And then people like you have the gall to act the victim. As if *you* are being victimized by the hoops these people have to jump through. Try being an H1-B visa holder for a year, or even a month, and then come back here with your parsimonious entitlement talk. Your ancestors most certainly didn’t behave that way.

you can read about it here:

http://awesomearpit.blogspot.com/

Norman: the last thing I want is to get sucked into an “elaborate” theory about some company somewhere committing fraud. If you believe there is fraud going on with a particular company, by all means report it to the proper authorities. On the other hand, the fact that people are shady and commit fraud does not mean that H1-B is “bad”, or that the people working as de-facto indentured servants should be treated like crap and kicked out of the country. The U.S. government frequently commits bribery and fraud, too — you can read about it in the papers everyday. It’s not even particularly elaborate. I suppose this means we should get rid of government.

I will give you details (names and solid information with proof) of an Indian IT company collecting $10 K from prospective employers in currency in India, transferring that cash (and I mean currency) to Pittsburgh, laundering the money using an elaborate scheme.

I can send you a fact sheet if I have your commitment to investigate it.

Up for the challenge?

For the visa holder, staying in the country is paramount, not the amount of money they make. Consequently, their presence in the industry has a downward pressure on rates/wages.

I suspect that many visa holders, frustrated with dealing with the demands of sponsors, are now in the country illegally.